TITLE: 3000W wIND AND 5000W(4800) SOLAR (note: 5000ah @ 12 volt) - 8Kw rated hybrid power system is an "economic" version grid "mimic" (5Kw solar 5Kw Wind power system is a "basic" "grid size mimic") NOTE - THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL SITE - EMAILS AND QUESTIONS REGARDING SITE INFORMATION CONTENTS ITSELF WILL NOT BE ANSWERED HOWEVER - WEBMASTER FEEDBACK REGARDING "STANDARDS AND MAINTENANCE OF INFORMATION" IS ACCEPTED. NO COMMERCIAL INTERESTS ARE BOTHERED WITH INCLUSIVE PERSONAL LABOR JOBS OR ASSOCIATE SUBJECT WORK - DO NOT ATTEMPT CONTACT IF YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING, THEN YOU NOW HAVE THIS "TUTORIAL ARTICLE SET" TO HELP YOU AS A BASIC GUIDE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Unless the below complex information were shown to you in some parity "and explained" along with news media journalist articles relating Australian electrical grid price regulation and supply constraints, you would have no idea that off grid is viable alternative at times. You would have no idea where to start looking for how to construct or acquire because it is neatly wrapped up in a complex tangle of red tape to ever know it as a simply supplier buyer action in part as much not as complex as actual electrical trades. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- DO NOT FORGET, OFF GRID POWER IS A FLOAT CHARGE SYSTEM ON BATTERIES - NOT A DEEP CYCLING ACTION ! --- ----- NOTE: When tinkering with construction of a piece by piece system: Get the wind turbine first, you can then get the controller. It is possible to match a controller to a known turbine (particularly assists if the turbine voltage is the same as the power system) - but not match a turbine to a controller (unless it accidentally operates perfectly) Then get the controller by telling the supplier the requirements specification of the turbine, the required system rated(e.g. 96vdc or 120vdc ...) voltage and solar input if non standard quantities of solar is required. The DC input of the pure sine wave inverters should match the power system and battery bank rated(e.g. 96vdc or 120vdc ...) voltage, of course - output is 240vac-50Hz. 3000W wIND AND 5000W(4800) SOLAR (note: 5000ah @ 12 volt) - 8Kw rated hybrid power system is an "economic" version grid "mimic" (5Kw solar 5Kw Wind power system is a "basic" "grid size mimic") ============================================================================================ ============================================================================================= NOTE: DO NOT FORGET to read the D.I.Y. article and learn what is required from it , or the below is useless to you through acquirement mistakes you would make! To understand this "12 volt wind-solar hybrid and small 240v appliances" D.I.Y. article is almost the better page to start or open both DIY articles. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-High-power-8000w-48v-Wind-solar-hybrid-controller-charger-with-LCD-Display-PWM-Dump-load/1574948737.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.45.n2AuUo New High power 8000w 48v Wind&solar hybrid controller charger with LCD Display ,PWM,& Dump load function 3000w wind+5000w solar (Wind *Solar Output Power and voltage Can be customized) Approximately AU $1,229.41 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2kW-96v-low-rpm-hotrizontal-wind-generator-110v/1445279203.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.2.8Ev8CO 2000W 96v low rpm hotrizontal wind turbine 110v - Approximately AU $1,861.53 ========== WARNING DO NOT ATTEMPT TO USE Lithium deep cycles'. [Only use "lead acid (AGM or VRLA)" and "lead acid gel(lead crystal)" types] -- NOTE: Of late in July 2015, "sealed GEL lead acid" long float life 12-15 years large number discharge (only to 10 - 20 percent DOD - down to 90-80 percent full) have been cheaper to acquire or at least some companies can be fossicked with better trade deals for GEL lead acid high quality long life. Because of this GEL type are the better to acquire. NOTE: Long float life is achieved by using the battery at a lower charge voltage and at or below 20 degrees Celsius. http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=100ah+deep+cycle+accumulator -- (Example old quote information) GEL high discharge quantity 12 - 15 year [ WARNING - Trade deal prices are quoted by suppliers in USD as intermediary currency level. "CIF terms" " 80 pieces of 12v-80ah-GEL " , cost approx. somewhere around $9000 AUD - - makes a 6400ah battery bank with a 10% use per discharge (shouldn't should all be done by floating charge input) 70 pieces cost approx. $8000 AUD - makes a 5600ah battery bank with a 10% use per discharge (shouldn't should all be done by floating charge input) 60 pieces would be safest to cost approx. $7000 AUD - makes a 4800ah battery bank with a 10% use per discharge (shouldn't should all be done by floating charge input) http://www.windsolarhybridaustralia.x10.mx/KG12-80.pdf ] OR [ 50 pieces - 5500AH of 12v-110ah GEL $7600 AUD http://www.windsolarhybridaustralia.x10.mx/BPG12110DC.pdf (by price not the best but this was good for size and performance - the same 5000ah was "1500" AUD (1000USD) less in 65ah pieces for a float 12 - 15 year GEL battery) ] -- Approximately AU $ 5000 for required deep cycle 12v 80ah or 100ah (with minimum 1600 discharges to 30% DOD above 20 degrees Celsius amd around 25 degrees Celsius with also 12 to 15 years life-cycle at that temperature band) battery trade deal to Sydney port CIF -- claims 15 years 65ah AGM , 80 pieces http://www.windsolarhybridaustralia.x10.mx/AGM12V65AH.pdf -- This model here is one i found will get 12 years but is "the absolute least allowable(is finally allowed) of a GEL type"!!!! 65 AH 80 pieces = 5200ah 100 pieces = 6500ah http://www.windsolarhybridaustralia.x10.mx/AG126512V65AHGELBattery.pdf -- 65 AH 70 pieces 80 pieces = 5200ah 100 pieces = 6500ah http://www.windsolarhybridaustralia.x10.mx/12V65AHGELBATTERYTECHNICALSHEET.pdf -- 65ah 70 pieces of these would likely last it to 12 years easy enough floated as point, is around the top lead chemistry! http://www.windsolarhybridaustralia.x10.mx/DSE-SLA-12V65G-V11A.pdf -- 65ah use "at least 80 pieces" (floated for up to 12 years) http://windsolarhybridaustralia.x10.mx/KG12-65.pdf -- quotes when you ask are in USD so you can convert the quantity to AUD with this online rate converter http://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/ It goes to sleep on weekends -- ---- solar cell --- pieces http://www.aliexpress.com/item/600-pcs-156-x-156mm-polycrystalline-solar-cell-DIY-solar-panel-for-home-free-shipping/32261749750.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.240.22XwY5 600 pcs 156 x 156mm polycrystalline solar cell , DIY solar panel for home, free shipping! Approximately AU $2,397.04 - "FOR 2 LOTS ((2400W- 600 pieces) X 2 = 4800W )" [ note: tabbing wire and busbar wire should be chosen as correct "voltage and current throughput"(PV panel voltage being made for the controller) for each solar-cell line output rating] http://www.aliexpress.com/item/200feets-61meters-5x0-2mm-Leady-Solar-Busbar-Wire-Solder-Connection-Wires/666150347.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.11.mkvhmA 200feets / 61meters 5x0.2mm Leady Solar Busbar Wire / Solder Connection Wires Approximately AU $80.98 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1280-feet-Tabbing-Wire-0-15-2mm-PV-Ribbon-for-solar-cells-soldering-Environmentally-friendly-Lead/1890311044.html 640 feet PV Ribbon 0.15*2mm Tabbing Wire for solar cells soldering (Environmentally friendly Lead-free Tin Silver Copper) Approximately AU $220.22 backing=-frame-bits and 100 MPH glass + $1000 ---- end solar cell --- pieces 2 X 10,000W INVERTERS $5000 --------------------------- extra pieces battery wire, bricks, solder,solder iron e.t.c "bits" $1000 SHS square steel and cement and small MIG welding-machine and wire $2000 heavy electrical cable ( GUESS $600 ) Transport - HIRED 3 TONNE HYDRAULIC LIFT TAIL VAN/TRUCK ( $1000 "use case" estimate with fuel) tariff + gst $1500 - $ 2500 -------------------------- ROUNDED TOTAL 23,000 - 25,000(+1000 if 70 or 80 gel accumulators) less or more because of materials and actual charges varying for items/services used during acquirement NOTE: Some kits of late i found .... This company produces Wind Solar Hybrid kits in China of sizes 10Kw(3Kw Wind - 7Kw Solar) 10Kw(5Kw Wind - 5Kw Solar) 8Kw(5Kw Wind - 3Kw Solar) (remember to ask for the quote without batteries , they are better chosen from above as a separate trade deal based on quality and price and size for throughput. Also no mounting frames, you build a proper shelf by welding , digging and cementing). http://ouyad.en.alibaba.com/ If you ever ask and decide to get a quote, there is a vast difference when these are being bought as a full package "set" on their pricing compared to the above quick express site in pieces. After the kit set deal and some accumulator manufacturer deal with at least 6000ah of proper long float life batteries it's around 25,000 to 27,000 AUD ("p/year average (15 years) descriptive cost" 1600 - 1800 - AUD per year value - WITH EXTRA stored electrics parts) with 4 x 10Kw inverters(2x extra inverters for 7 or 9 years later) and 2x wind controllers and 2x solar controllers (an extra each for 7 to 9 years later - takes it up to 15 years) and is calculated with the tariff transport cement steel cable e.t.c. . (! NOTE: "p/year average (12 years) descriptive cost" 2000 - 2200 - AUD per year value - WITH EXTRA stored electrics parts) Hedley Lamarr ..."Haley versus United States, Haley 7 United States nothing, You see it can be done , It can be done!"....